Comments on: RWW Podcast Episode 82: Roubo Workbench Lower Shelf http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/ So many projects, so little time... Welcome to Woodworking A-D-D. Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:30:29 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jeroen http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-4332 Jeroen Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:20:24 +0000 http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/?p=447#comment-4332 I agree with Bob Rozaieski, the joint setup is a little wrong. But because you use the same iron to create the bottom shoulder and grove. You can correct this by shortening the other iron a bit and you´re done. I agree with Bob Rozaieski, the joint setup is a little wrong. But because you use the same iron to create the bottom shoulder and grove. You can correct this by shortening the other iron a bit and you´re done.

]]> By: BedrockBob http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-4314 BedrockBob Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:09:52 +0000 http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/?p=447#comment-4314 Great episode. I have been looking at the Tongue and Groove Plane since Lie-Nielsen introduced it; really enjoyed seeing it used in a project. I think it would be great for gluing up a wide table top. To help in creating a gap free joint on the top you could use a marking gauge to make a deep knife line on the tongue side of the board. Of course you would need to figure out the exact height of the tongue, set the marking gauge, make the knife line and then cut the tongue. Bob Great episode. I have been looking at the Tongue and Groove Plane since Lie-Nielsen introduced it; really enjoyed seeing it used in a project.

I think it would be great for gluing up a wide table top. To help in creating a gap free joint on the top you could use a marking gauge to make a deep knife line on the tongue side of the board. Of course you would need to figure out the exact height of the tongue, set the marking gauge, make the knife line and then cut the tongue.

Bob

]]> By: Bob Rozaieski http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-4313 Bob Rozaieski Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:44:26 +0000 http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/?p=447#comment-4313 Great episode Shannon! I love using my match planes. When properly set up, they are really fun to use. There was one thing that I caught that I think the modern LN match plane got wrong though. The two shoulders of the tongue were not traditionally even with each other, nor were they intended to be. The shoulder on the non-reference side would traditionally have been ever so slightly deeper than the shoulder on the money side. This is so that when the joint is brought together, the show side of the joint is gauranteed to close tight and any gap at the shoulder would be hidden from view on the non-show face. Similarly, the groove would be just a bit deeper than the tongue so that the tongue wouldn't bottom out and prevent the joint from closing tightly. Of course this makes very little difference today as we have time to fine tune the joint if it doesn't fit right, however, the joint can be planed much faster and without any fiddling post planing with the plane set up to make the joint as mentioned. This was actually an advantage of the separate irons that Stanley used as it would be easier to offset the hieghts slightly. The LN iron, and similar split irons on vintage planes, need to be sharpened at different heights, which can be challenging, especially if you use a honing guide. Great episode Shannon! I love using my match planes. When properly set up, they are really fun to use.

There was one thing that I caught that I think the modern LN match plane got wrong though. The two shoulders of the tongue were not traditionally even with each other, nor were they intended to be. The shoulder on the non-reference side would traditionally have been ever so slightly deeper than the shoulder on the money side. This is so that when the joint is brought together, the show side of the joint is gauranteed to close tight and any gap at the shoulder would be hidden from view on the non-show face. Similarly, the groove would be just a bit deeper than the tongue so that the tongue wouldn’t bottom out and prevent the joint from closing tightly. Of course this makes very little difference today as we have time to fine tune the joint if it doesn’t fit right, however, the joint can be planed much faster and without any fiddling post planing with the plane set up to make the joint as mentioned. This was actually an advantage of the separate irons that Stanley used as it would be easier to offset the hieghts slightly. The LN iron, and similar split irons on vintage planes, need to be sharpened at different heights, which can be challenging, especially if you use a honing guide.

]]> By: Shannon http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-4302 Shannon Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:06:03 +0000 http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/?p=447#comment-4302 The same principle applies with regard to wood movement but the immediate advantage I can see with a T&G joint is that is locks the piece together and you don't need to fasten them to the case anywhere other than the sides. A shiplap is just a rabbet and can be pushed apart easier than the housed aspect of a T&G joint. In essence I think it is stronger and will control warping more than a simple ship lap. The same principle applies with regard to wood movement but the immediate advantage I can see with a T&G joint is that is locks the piece together and you don’t need to fasten them to the case anywhere other than the sides. A shiplap is just a rabbet and can be pushed apart easier than the housed aspect of a T&G joint. In essence I think it is stronger and will control warping more than a simple ship lap.

]]> By: duncanjmurray http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/2010/02/03/rww-podcast-episode-82-roubo-workbench-lower-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-4300 duncanjmurray Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:03 +0000 http://rogersfinewoodworking.com/blog/?p=447#comment-4300 Great episode Shannon, what a lot of fantastic info. (Don't apologize for the size of the download, it's not that big and when the content is this good, it's worth every MB). Are there any advantages to tongue and groove compared to other joints, e.g. shiplapped? Great episode Shannon, what a lot of fantastic info. (Don’t apologize for the size of the download, it’s not that big and when the content is this good, it’s worth every MB).

Are there any advantages to tongue and groove compared to other joints, e.g. shiplapped?

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